"We protect fish by recognising their larvae so that we can protect the spawning grounds."
Just a few months ago, Peter Konstantinidis was still frequently on the US Pacific watching whales. Since mid-January, he has been the new curator of ichthyology at the Museum der Natur Hamburg, where he is responsible for Germany's largest fish collection. He is particularly fascinated by the diversity and beauty of fish larvae. In this interview, the native Swabian explains why he wants to get more people interested in fish larvae and why he no longer owns an aquarium himself.
What drives you as a researcher?
The curiosity to find out more about biological diversity. As the largest group of vertebrates, fish are the most exciting for me.
What are you particularly interested in?
Above all, the morphological diversity, i.e. the differences in skeletal systems in different fish. And how this information can be used to further investigate relationships.
How did you get into biology?
Fishing was already a big thing for me at the age of five. And then it was simply the logical consequence that I studied biology and specialised in fish. Over time and the more I learnt, the more interesting it became. I didn't take the direct route, but rather the second educational path. I really wanted to do something with biology and go into research.
What are the highlights of your current job?
The redescription of marine fish larvae and working with fish larvae in general. The diversity of fish larvae is even greater than that of adult animals. So if you think of the 36,000 species of fish that we know so far, that's an enormous morphological diversity and beauty! In high-resolution photos, the larvae look as if they are not even from this world.
Where can you find the most beautiful larvae?
For me, especially in the deep sea. There is a huge, interesting variety of deep-sea fish and their larvae.
As a fish curator, surely you have your own aquarium?
No, not any more. We had a whole aquarium room at the museum in London where I wrote my doctoral thesis. There were so many aquariums there that I didn't feel like having my own at home. I had to look after 28 aquariums there for years and breed puffer fish. That was the end of the days of having my own aquarium.
What does your research achieve?
We protect fish by protecting the larvae, but we have to know them first. I pass on my expertise on marine fish larvae so that the spawning grounds can be better protected.
What does nature mean to you personally? Is there a favourite place in nature?
For me, nature is the reason why I am here on earth, why I exist. My favourite place - it's difficult to say, but it's probably the forests in Oregon. I've lived there for the last seven years.
How do you explain biodiversity to children?
Biodiversity is created when organisms and animal species adapt to certain environmental conditions.
What was your personal professional goal when you came to the LIB?
My goal is to work with a colleague from the Natural History Museum in Paris to set up a centre for fish larvae identification and fish larvae research here at the LIB. We are the only two non-retired researchers in the world who can identify fish larvae. All the others are over 70 and we are having difficulties recruiting new blood.
I guess that's what we call loss of species knowledge. What are you doing about it?
We teach and give courses in the knowledge of fish larvae - this year in France, in Brittany. I would like to offer a course every year, once in Hamburg, once in France, and of course invite my colleague to attend. And yes, we need to get students interested in this topic. The problem is that larvae identification is very time-consuming. You can't learn it in a fortnight. I've been doing it for ten years now and I'm still learning.
What should we identify with the LIB in ten years' time?
It would be good if we could give natural history museums in general, which are often seen as dusty, a new kick, especially with our new building, so that people would enjoy going to natural history museums again. Before I worked in this area, I didn't really realise what a natural history museum actually was. People often only know the exhibition rooms. Many people don't realise that there is so much research going on in the background that the exhibition is just one part of the whole. I hope that the Hamburg museum will give the whole thing new impetus.
What do you see as the biggest challenge in the field of environmental protection?
That we humans change our consumer behaviour. Unfortunately, I don't see that happening. It works in small groups, maybe here and there in smaller cities. But not on a large scale. More needs to happen at a political level in terms of restrictions.
What would you have become if biology hadn't worked out?
Schreiner. That was always on the table. I also had a small workshop in Oregon where I built furniture. That was always an alternative.
Dr Peter Konstantinidis began his training as an ichthyologist at the University of Tübingen and specialised early on in the diversity of cartilaginous and bony fishes. For his diploma thesis, he investigated the locomotor system of the mako shark in order to understand its effective swimming behaviour. His doctorate on the morphological diversity of pufferfish and their relatives took him to the Natural History Museum in London. He then moved to the University of Jena as a postdoc for his research on the evolution of basal bony fishes, before moving to the USA. After two years as a research associate at the Virginia Institute of Marine Science, he became curator of the vertebrate collection at Oregon State University. On 15 January 2024, Peter Konstantinidis took up his position as Section Head and Curator of Ichthyology at the LIB Hamburg.
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